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Apr 13 2012, 02:17
  • Alessandra Helpful Friend

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    Well I am a dog groomer,but I am not very happy with things at work.When I first started I asked my boss how she would pay me,because I was expecting get payed by hours or comission as I am use to,anyway she told me she would make me a salary based in the number of dogs I would work on batthing or clipping.The salary that she came up with is 360,00 dollars a week,Most of the days I work more than 8 hours a day and on saturdays from 9 to 5 or 6pm.I have sundays and mondays off. but the third monday of the month I have to work for free ot getting even another day off.I can do 6 or 7 dogs a day if I am not bathing them as well.I have only 10 or 15 minuts to eat.What everybody thinks about that?Is she abusing us dog groomers?
  • jaelle Contributor

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    Apr 29 2012, 11:25
    It really depends on how many hours you are working, vs how much you are getting paid. If you are getting paid the minimum wage in your area, then she is not technically doing anything wrong. However, if you are working so many hours and so hard for minimum wage, you might want to find a different job. It does seem a bit ridiculous to me to be that enmeshed with a job that doesn't pay very well.
    • Alessandra Helpful Friend

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      May 3 2012, 00:54
      Hi Jaelee,I think she is paying me minimum wages,that would be fine with me if she was doing what she has in her phone messages machine.
      She says that the dog grooming salon is open from wendnesday to saturday.Mondays and tuesday only by appointment.On saturdays its open till 4,but we work till 6 or more sometimes. Also on tuesday till 4 or till the last dog is done,but we work till 5 or 6.
      When I first started there I wanted earn more money and you know when you get a new job ,you get excited so she was paying me $400 a week for work 6 days p/w.After the first month i told her I wanted my day off like the other girls she agreed but decrese my salary for $360 a week.My friend and I are so tired of so much work.
      Thank you very much and please keep writting what you think.
  • Ginny MODERATOR

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    Apr 29 2012, 12:13
    Sounds like bullshit. I did the math, it looks to be roughly $8.50 an hour. This lady better be paying into your social security, at least. I bet she is not. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen. There are labor laws. Document the hours you work and the number of dogs you bathe/groom. Save your paycheck stubs, have copies of all paperwork you signed. She may try to tell you are an independent contractor, but if you're working the hours and days she tells you to work, you're not an independent contractor. Remember: just because you sign something, anything, if it is an illegal contract then it's not enforceable and can be taken to court as evidence. There are also break laws. There are federal break laws and state break laws, whichever is more generous. If you are not being allowed breaks, you can sue for the value of that time and get reimbursed. I believe the statute of limitations is about 2 years. That means file before 2 years is up for a writ to sue. If you file later you will need a compelling reason for not filing sooner.
    Write down things, like what has been said to pressure you into working one day every two weeks for free. Keep a notebook you use only for the purpose of documenting work conditions. Do not bring this notebook to work- employers have rights sometimes to search bags without so much as a consent or notifying you.
    Call legal aid and labor organizations, use the internet and/or the phone book. The problem here is that funding for these kinds of things varies a lot. Some states have tons of free legal aid, some don't. Do not listen to anyone who trots out the term "employment-at-will state." Talk to a real lawyer- at will does not literally mean they can do whatever they want, they are still accountable for things like break and lunch laws, not being able to discriminate, etc.
    If she is doing this o others, you can potentially file a suit together. But, be very cautious about telling/trusting other people- there's always some weenie who tries to get ahead by making others look bad, who tells the boss what's up.
    You can call around your area and see what others are making, and if this is comparable. Perhaps it is time to start your own dog-grooming business? You might do as well or better than you are now. You could start by moonlighting and work your way into it more and more regularly. Just don't get caught-you'll get fired, probably. So no stealing her clients out from under her nose- you'll have to find your own clients through advertising; if you undercut her price and put her out of business, oh well. Then maybe she'll learn to do right.
    Some cities have programs to help grow small businesses, some cities even have grants. Write me back if you need more help. The Employment office often has information about that stuff.
    • Alessandra Helpful Friend

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      May 3 2012, 00:39
      Hi Ginny,thank you very much for your response to my post.Well I feel like my Boss is over loading me and my friend with work.We usually start working at 8,8:30 and leaving at most of time 5:30 or 6.When I first start there she said I would be 1099 then she changed her mind and said she would make my salary by hw many dogs I groom.When I confront her about how many hous i am working she says that I don't work for salary,but comission.Sometimes she says its salary,which whatever suits her. I can groom everyday 6 or 7 dogs whole day thing.I get payed 360 dollars a week.Its very tiring because sometimes I have small and big dogs like standart poodles.She does not think or don't care when she is booking the dogs.When I first start there she wanted me to sight a card in blank,there was there time to fill out when i started my breaks and time out,but she said that doesnt matter because i am comission,so she showed me the other girl card a big writting 40 HOURS.I told here i did not want sigh that.Anyway I am writting down since I started there what time i get there,what time I live and my breaks which is only 10 or 15 minutes to have my lunch.That's all I have.I know I can have 2 breaks of 15 minutes right? You said something that I am thinking now.start my own business in my garage.I am tired of being slave of that woman.She should treat me and my friend better because we are the only groomers there,She can not find another one.She has been trying but no sucess.The worse thing is I have no support from my husband in that subject.
      Thank's Alessandra.
      • Ginny MODERATOR

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        May 3 2012, 09:29
        Alessandra,
        When she says you work on commission, there are laws, probably state laws, governing how that works. You can look it up on the computer- type in the name of your state and then type in "Labor laws" and possibly also type in "commission" or "independent contractor." She can't just do whatever she wants. Document every day. Not just when you don't have breaks or lunch- also document anything suspicious she does, like asking you to sign a blank card. Document when she says you work on salary; document when she says you work on commission. Document every effort you make to try to make her be fair. Sign, date, and write the time at the top of every page you write about her in a notebook.
        If you want me to see what I can find out as far as labor laws- I'm good at stuff like that- I need the name of your state. You wouldn't have to put it in a post- you could send me a private message on this site. The laws vary state by state, and by what you are designated as---whether you are an independent contractor, or on commission, or a regular employee. She is supposed to have certain posters up that explain how your employment status works---all other businesses have them, big posters make that explain rights you have and laws and where to report if she is in violation. I'd have to check on that to be certain, but every place I've ever worked have them and I think it is often required.
        I've had a couple little businesses in my life. The cleaning business I was really successful at. If you have any questions about that, I can tell you what I know- it's not much-I was sort of lucky, people liked me, so I got hired-but sometimes I can look stuff up about dog grooming businesses.
        I'm sorry your husband is so not supportive! He should be supportive- this is a big part of your life.
      • Ginny MODERATOR

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        May 3 2012, 09:29
        Alessandra,
        When she says you work on commission, there are laws, probably state laws, governing how that works. You can look it up on the computer- type in the name of your state and then type in "Labor laws" and possibly also type in "commission" or "independent contractor." She can't just do whatever she wants. Document every day. Not just when you don't have breaks or lunch- also document anything suspicious she does, like asking you to sign a blank card. Document when she says you work on salary; document when she says you work on commission. Document every effort you make to try to make her be fair. Sign, date, and write the time at the top of every page you write about her in a notebook.
        If you want me to see what I can find out as far as labor laws- I'm good at stuff like that- I need the name of your state. You wouldn't have to put it in a post- you could send me a private message on this site. The laws vary state by state, and by what you are designated as---whether you are an independent contractor, or on commission, or a regular employee. She is supposed to have certain posters up that explain how your employment status works---all other businesses have them, big posters make that explain rights you have and laws and where to report if she is in violation. I'd have to check on that to be certain, but every place I've ever worked have them and I think it is often required.
        I've had a couple little businesses in my life. The cleaning business I was really successful at. If you have any questions about that, I can tell you what I know- it's not much-I was sort of lucky, people liked me, so I got hired-but sometimes I can look stuff up about dog grooming businesses.
        I'm sorry your husband is so not supportive! He should be supportive- this is a big part of your life.
  • Ginny MODERATOR

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    May 4 2012, 20:22
    Alessandra, hey, I looked up some stuff really quick on my computer at home. I live in Illinois. According to what I read, in Illinois, which is probably quite similar to other states, even if you work on commission you have to make at least minimum wage. Also, if you work over 40 hours a week, you are entitled to overtime pay, which means whatever you make hourly plus half of what you make hourly; so, if you make 8 dollars an hour, time and a half overtime pay is 12 dollars an hour.
    I also read that if your employer keeps crappy documentation of how she figures you wages, this will reflect badly on her in court. For example, if she was working you on commission, she should have made you sign not one, but a few things.
    If she is not paying into your social security for you, since you clearly are not working on commission, she is in violation of a federal law. You need her to be paying into your social security, because that is money the government gets and saves for you for if and when you become disabled and can't work, and also for your retirement. If you were making 8 dollars for example, she should be taking an additional 8 dollars and giving it to social security. The problem is, if she is not paying into your social security, if you become disabled the federal government will still give you money, but not as much. I worked for 20 years at various jobs, and my social security---since at 41 I am disabled---is only $822.00 a month, and that is with all those jobs paying into my social security for me. If they hadn't done that, as a disabled person I'd be getting a bit over $600.00 a month.
    My other problem is, if and when you get ready to sue this woman, 1.You will absolutely need as much documentation as you can get, and 2. Will you be able to find quality representation? The government can do a lot and does do a lot, but it doesn't do everything. Legal Aid and/or the Labor Bureau for your state can give you some answers about the likelihood of being able to get quality representation in a court case at a reasonable fee when the time comes. (It would be beautiful if you could let this go long enough that by the time you sue her she owes you enough you can start you own dog grooming business, but it's a gamble). Also don't forget, legal cases can drag on and on and on, requiring energy and time on your part. Sometimes a lawyer can be obtained through commission, but then when you get your monetary reward, they take a lot of that money to keep for themselves as payment.
    If you want any help with finding another job, I can help with figuring out what you might be able to do, or I can refer to places that can help you figure out what else you might be able to do, as well.
    Ginny
    • Alessandra Helpful Friend

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      May 18 2012, 00:49
      Hi Ginny,how are you?thank you for looking for workers law for me.I spoke with my boss for the third time about what she is doing.She said that am getting paid actually 410 dollars.$360 dollars is what i take home the rest of it is tax which makes $410 dollars.She is paying me with the social security.Also she is saying that she is not doing anything illegal.She has a way to convince me that she is doing the right thing,I don't know anymore.But i still tracking how many hours I'm working during the week and it is more than 40.I think I will continue working there and saving up money to open my own business.Thank you for the advices.
      Big hug Alessandra.
      • Ginny MODERATOR

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        May 18 2012, 08:35
        Okay, it sounds like you have a plan. She doesn't sound like she is putting money into the Social Security Administration for you, though, because the money she puts into that never comes out of a person's check. It is equal to a person's salary and goes directly to Social Security. If you ever want to call, the number is 800-772-1213. The money she is taking out must be for state taxes or for federal taxes, but you are supposed to fill out a form to tell her how much to take out- she doesn't just get to take out whatever she pleases. And she is supposed to give you a record of how much she's paid into your taxes for you if you request it, and another one at the end of the year for tax purposes.
        But it sounds like you have a plan- I just had to mention one more time I think she sounds really bad. ! I hope you go into business on your own :-) that'd be awesome.

        Gin
  • Cat_lover24 Helpful Friend

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    Sep 10 2012, 18:48
    I used to work at a dog kennel and I highly enjoyed it. I use to help my boss with brusing out the dogs and giving the dogs a bath. When I worked there it was my first job so, I didn't make a lot of money and I was never given a raise even though I was there from like 7a to sometimes 7p because I would forget to do something or was running late on walking the dogs. Sometimes, I had to walk alot of dogs by myself. I had to walk them all, feed and water them all and clean there runs so it could take up to 2.5 hours. You should be getting the money that the customer pays you per dog. One dog might be 45.00 dollars and another dog might be 35.00 but that is the money that you should be making.
    • Alessandra Helpful Friend

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      Sep 10 2012, 19:04
      thank you for your response to my thread.I no longer work at the same place.I have a new Job now and get better money also chip.

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